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22 Orange Grove Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts superb location. It has a score 8.6 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Free Wi-Fi in rooms
Valet parking
24-hour reception
Express check-in/ -out
Outdoor swimming pool
Fitness center
In a leafy, tropical paradise spanning six hectares of beautifully manicured gardens, the 792-room 5-star Shangri-La Singapore hotel is an oasis of luxury in a prime location near Orchard Road.
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90 Robertson Quay, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts superb location. It has a score 8.9 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Free Wi-Fi in public areas
24-hour reception
Express check-in/ -out
Rooftop pool
Fitness center
Restaurant
Bar/ Lounge area
Offering a location a 6-minute stroll from Singapore Tyler Print Institute Art Gallery, the comfortable 4-star M Social Hotel Singapore offers 293 rooms. 1 mile from Chinatown, this designer hotel…
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277 Orchard Road #10-01, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts excellent location. It has a score 9.4 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
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24-hour reception
Express check-in/ -out
Outdoor swimming pool
Fitness center
Restaurant
Poolside snack bar
Nestled in the shopping Orchard district, the 4-star modern Jen Singapore Orchardgateway By Shangri-La hotel is around 20 minutes' walk from Singapore Management University. This Singapore hotel lies…
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2 Perumal Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts excellent location. It has a score 9 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Wi-Fi
24-hour reception
Express check-in/ -out
Fitness center
Cribs
Air conditioning
Situated merely 6 minutes' stroll from the twenty-four-hour shopping mall "Mustafa Centre", Lyf Farrer Park Singapore hotel offers air-conditioned rooms with Wi-Fi in public areas. Ideally located in…
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500 Jalan Sultan, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts superb location. It has a score 8.6 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
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24-hour reception
Outdoor swimming pool
Fitness center
Meeting/ Banquet facilities
Non-smoking rooms
Located 17 minutes by foot from Sri Veeramakaliamman Temple and 1.2 miles from St Andrew's Anglican Cathedral, the 4-star Hotel Boss Singapore offers a banquet hall suited for a range of needs.
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101 Siloso Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts superb location. It has a score 8.9 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
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24-hour reception
Express check-in/ -out
Outdoor swimming pool
Beach access
Fitness center
Located in the shopping Botnang district, merely a 5-minute stroll from Underwater World and Dolphin Lagoon, the 5-star Shangri-La Rasa Sentosa, Singapore hotel features spa therapy and various…
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80 Middle Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts exceptional location. It has a score 9.5 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Wi-Fi
24-hour reception
Express check-in/ -out
Outdoor swimming pool
Fitness center
Steam room
Jacuzzi
Offering a swimming pool, the designer Frasers House, A Luxury Collection Hotel, Singapore is situated in a cultural district, 20 minutes' walk from the night Zouk Club. Located a short way from…
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80 Nepal Park, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts superb location. It has a score 8.9 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Wi-Fi
24-hour reception
Express check-in/ -out
Infinity pool
Fitness center
Meeting/ Banquet facilities
The 4-star Lyf One-North Singapore hotel provides guests with a strategic location approximately 5 minutes' stroll from ESSEC Asia-Pacific Business School as well as a banquet hall, ideal for…
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78 Airport Boulevard Level 4 #04-280 Jewel Changi Airport, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts excellent location. It has a score 9 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Wi-Fi
24-hour reception
Fitness center
Wheelchair access
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
The 4-star smoke-free Yotelair Singapore Changi Airport Landside hotel offers a shared lounge, located 1.6 miles from St John's Island. All guests can enjoy Wi-Fi throughout the property and access…
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1A Cuscaden Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts excellent location. It has a score 9.1 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Free Wi-Fi in rooms
24-hour reception
Outdoor swimming pool
Fitness center
Restaurant
Poolside snack bar
Business center
Situated about a 10-minute stroll from Singapore Botanic Gardens and 0.4 miles from the 160-year-old tropical Singapore Botanic Gardens, Jen Singapore Tanglin By Shangri-La hotel welcomes guests with…
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3 Nanson Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts superb location. It has a score 8.7 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
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24-hour reception
Express check-in/ -out
Infinity pool
Fitness center
Restaurant
Offering a restaurant and a lobby area, Studio M Hotel Singapore is only 5 minutes' stroll from Sri Thendayuthapani Temple. Located in the Robertson Quay district, 1.4 miles from places for heritage…
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70 Jellicoe Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts excellent location. It has a score 9.2 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
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24-hour reception
Indoor swimming pool
Outdoor swimming pool
Fitness center
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
Located 1.5 miles from The Cathay Cineplex Movie Theater, the 4-star smoke-free V Hotel Lavender Singapore is only a 6-minute walk from Jalan Besar Stadium. Located 1.7 miles from National Museum of…
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67 Hill Street, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts exceptional location. It has a score 9.5 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
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24-hour reception
Fitness center
Wheelchair access
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
Featuring a shared lounge and a shopping arcade, the comfortable Lyf Funan Singapore hotel lies approximately 5 minutes by foot from the Raffles Asian Civilisations Museum. Featuring 320 rooms with…
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21 Ocean Way, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts excellent location. It has a score 9.1 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Wi-Fi
24-hour reception
Express check-in/ -out
Outdoor swimming pool
Fitness center
Water slides
Golf course
Situated approximately 5 minutes by foot from W Singapore, the vibrant W Singapore - Sentosa Cove, Newly Renovated hotel has a ballroom and a banquet hall ideal for bringing people together. This…
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238 Joo Chiat Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts superb location. It has a score 8.2 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Wi-Fi
24-hour reception
Non-smoking rooms
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
Nestled in a shopping neighborhood, the 3-star smoke-free Venue Hotel The Lily Singapore is around 5 minutes' walk from Kuan Im Tng Temple. Boasting a location a short way from The Intan House Museum…
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31 Rochester Drive, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts superb location. It has a score 8.5 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Free Wi-Fi in rooms
24-hour reception
Outdoor swimming pool
Fitness center
Bar/ Lounge area
Meeting/ Banquet facilities
The 4-star Park Avenue Rochester Singapore hotel includes 15 rooms and is a 10-minute walk from New Creation Church. This hotel also includes a car park.
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2 Magazine Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts superb location. It has a score 8.8 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
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24-hour reception
Express check-in/ -out
Rooftop pool
Fitness center
Bar/ Lounge area
The 4-star luxurious Holiday Inn Express Singapore Clarke Quay By Ihg is located near the entertainment district of Singapore, about 5 minutes by foot from Sri Thendayuthapani Temple. Located 1.2…
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48 Bencoolen Street, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts excellent location. It has a score 9.4 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
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24-hour reception
Outdoor swimming pool
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
Offering a restaurant and a laundromat, the 4-star smoke-free V Hotel Bencoolen Singapore lies in the Bencoolen district, 0.2 miles from the Asian art museum "National Gallery Singapore" and around…
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11 Cavenagh Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts excellent location. It has a score 9.1 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Wi-Fi
Valet parking
24-hour reception
Express check-in/ -out
Rooftop pool
Fitness center
Providing 324 rooms, the 4-star Holiday Inn Singapore Orchard City Centre By Ihg is around a 25-minute walk from Hawker centers. The inn is 2.1 miles from the three waterfront Gardens by the Bay and…
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1, Anderson Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts excellent location. It has a score 9 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Wi-Fi
24-hour reception
Outdoor swimming pool
Fitness center
Tennis court
Spa & wellness center
Steam room
Jacuzzi
Nestled a mere 6 minutes by foot from the filled Forum The Shopping Mall, the comfortable 5-star Shangri-La Apartments Singapore hotel offers a banquet hall for gatherings and meetings. This…
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50 East Coast Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts superb location. It has a score 8.9 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Free Wi-Fi in rooms
24-hour reception
Express check-in/ -out
Outdoor swimming pool
Fitness center
Golf course
Cycling
Providing 563 rooms, the 4-star Grand Mercure Singapore Roxy hotel is 8 minutes by foot from Katong District. The hotel is 1.5 miles from East Coast Park and invites guests to one of the 3 onsite…
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317 Outram Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts superb location. It has a score 8.8 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Wi-Fi
24-hour reception
Express check-in/ -out
Rooftop pool
Fitness center
Restaurant
Bar/ Lounge area
The 4-star Holiday Inn Singapore Atrium By Ihg is located in the Singapore River district of Singapore, about 10 minutes' walk from Singapore River. Located 2.2 miles from Marina Bay Sands Singapore,…
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41 Bencoolen Street, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts excellent location. It has a score 9.3 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Wi-Fi
24-hour reception
Outdoor swimming pool
Fitness center
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
The smoke-free Hotel Mi Bencoolen Singapore is 25 minutes' walk from the modern public Gardens by the Bay in Singapore and boasts a private art gallery. Boasting a gym area, this hotel is in the very…
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305 Joo Chiat Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts superb location. It has a score 8.5 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Free Wi-Fi in rooms
24-hour reception
Non-smoking rooms
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
Venue Hotel Singapore lies about 20 minutes' stroll from Katong District, and features a storage room. While staying at this 3-star hotel, a safe deposit box and 24-hour security service are…
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592 Balestier Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts very good location. It has a score 7.5 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Wi-Fi
24-hour reception
Outdoor swimming pool
Fitness center
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
Providing 367 rooms, the 3-star non-smoking Days Inn By Wyndham Singapore Novena is nestled 11 minutes by foot from Whampoa River. While boasting a location a short way from Novena subway station…
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3 Dickson Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts superb location. It has a score 8.3 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
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24-hour reception
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
The 2-star Hotel 81 Dickson Singapore has 193 rooms and is located 25 minutes' walk from the lily pond–framed ArtScience Museum. There is also parking.
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9 Wallich Street, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts excellent location. It has a score 9.4 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Wi-Fi
24-hour reception
Express check-in/ -out
Infinity pool
Fitness center
Jacuzzi
Offering a prime location just an 11-minute stroll from People's Park Complex, the sophisticated 5-star Sofitel Singapore City Centre hotel is proud to feature a banquet hall crafted for social and…
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181 New Bridge Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts excellent location. It has a score 9.3 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
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24-hour reception
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
The heritage Hotel 81 Chinatown Singapore is a great place to stay in a central district, a 25-minute stroll from Cloud Forest. This hotel features Wi-Fi in public areas and 172 rooms that offer…
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581 Orchard Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts excellent location. It has a score 9.1 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Free Wi-Fi in public areas
24-hour reception
Express check-in/ -out
Rooftop pool
Fitness center
Spa & wellness center
Full body massage
Head massage
Back massage
With a prime spot about a 5-minute stroll from ION Orchard, the fantastic 5-star Voco Orchard Singapore By Ihg hotel includes a private art gallery. This Singapore hotel lies in the center of the…
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20 Bideford Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts excellent location. It has a score 9.4 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
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24-hour reception
Fitness center
Restaurant
Bar/ Lounge area
Business center
Cribs
Situated about 25 minutes' stroll from the the Battlebox, Holiday Inn Express Singapore Orchard Road By Ihg features a restaurant. Located 2.2 miles from Marina Bay Sands Singapore, the 4-star hotel…
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21 Lorong 8 Geylang, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts very good location. It has a score 7.4 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
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24-hour reception
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
The 2-star Hotel 81 Orchid Singapore lies in the shopping area of Singapore, 2.2 miles from natural attractions such as the modern public Gardens by the Bay. A convenience store and a lobby area are…
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218 Balestier Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts superb location. It has a score 8 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Wi-Fi
24-hour reception
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
Nestled 14 minutes by foot from Cityscape swimming pool, the 2-star non-smoking Value Hotel Balestier Singapore offers various recreational opportunities and a hair salon. Wi-Fi is offered in public…
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226 Balestier Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts very good location. It has a score 7.8 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
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24-hour reception
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
Offering various recreational opportunities and a hair salon, the comfortable 2-star Hotel 81 Balestier Singapore is nestled in the entertainment Balestier district, 2.9 miles from Hawker centers.
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99 Irrawaddy Road, Novena, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts superb location. It has a score 8.7 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Free Wi-Fi in public areas
24-hour reception
Express check-in/ -out
Infinity pool
Rooftop pool
Fitness center
Restaurant
Poolside snack bar
The non-smoking Courtyard By Marriott Singapore Novena hotel is located 1.7 miles from Malay Heritage Centre Museum, in the very heart of Singapore, and offers rooms with skyline views. While…
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No. 25, Geylang Lorong 16, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts very good location. It has a score 7.6 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
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24-hour reception
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
The 2-star value-for-money Hotel 81 Palace - Newly Renovated Singapore is situated in a shopping area of Singapore, only 0.7 miles from Anaki Records Gig Space and around a 5-minute walk from Kang Ha…
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2 Changi Business Park Avenue 1, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts superb location. It has a score 8.8 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Free internet access
24-hour reception
Outdoor swimming pool
Fitness center
Restaurant
Bar/ Lounge area
Non-smoking property
Situated 6 minutes' walk from Singapore EXPO Convention & Exhibition Center, the perfect Park Avenue Changi Singapore hotel has a banquet hall ideal for bringing people together. Boasting a swimming…
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512 Kampong Bahru Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts very good location. It has a score 7.7 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Free Wi-Fi in rooms
24-hour reception
Express check-in/ -out
Non-smoking rooms
Cribs
Air conditioning
Welcome to Harbour Ville - a gem among Singapore's accommodations. This establishment offers a plethora of attractions within easy reach, including Sentosa, Universal Studios, and the vibrant…
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1 Eng Hoon Street, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts superb location. It has a score 8.3 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
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24-hour reception
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
The smoke-free Hotel 81 Osaka Singapore includes 128 rooms and is a 10-minute walk from Hawker centers. Staying here you can use Wi-Fi throughout the property and parking on site.
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41 Seah Street, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts excellent location. It has a score 9.3 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
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24-hour reception
Rooftop pool
Fitness center
Meeting/ Banquet facilities
Cribs
Naumi Hotel Singapore is around a 25-minute stroll from TKP Conference Centre Raffles Place and has a rooftop infinity pool plus a well-equipped gym. Strategically located in the very heart of an…
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No. 21, Geylang Lorong 12, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts very good location. It has a score 7.6 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Wi-Fi
24-hour reception
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
The 2-star Hotel 81 Premier Princess Singapore offers 245 rooms with proximity to Geylang River, which is 16 minutes' stroll from the property. Guests traveling by car can also use public parking…
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181 Joo Chiat Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts superb location. It has a score 8.4 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Wi-Fi
24-hour reception
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
The 3-star Hotel Sakura By Venue Singapore offers quick access to Geylang Serai, situated a mere 5 minutes' walk away. Boasting a location 0.2 miles from The Intan House Museum, this Singapore hotel…
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8 Jiak Chuan Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts superb location. It has a score 8.9 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
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24-hour reception
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
Located merely 6 minutes by foot from Chinatown Heritage Centre Shophouse Museum, the 2-star Hotel 81 Cosy Singapore gives easy access to various tourist attractions. Boasting a location just near…
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30 Foch Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts very good location. It has a score 7.5 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
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24-hour reception
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
The 2-star Hotel 81 Elegance Singapore is located in the Jalan Besar district, 0.6 miles from Kallang River. Featuring 305 rooms with views of the urban, the hotel is about a 25-minute walk from St…
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31 Middle Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts superb location. It has a score 8.6 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Wi-Fi
24-hour reception
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
Offering a storage room, Hotel 81 Bugis Singapore lies in the Dottendorf district of Singapore, merely 0.7 miles from Clarke Quay Mall and around 25 minutes by foot from Hawker centers. Also, you can…
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61 Lorong 8 Geylang, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts very good location. It has a score 7.5 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Wi-Fi
24-hour reception
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
The 2-star Hotel 81 Premier Hollywood Singapore is situated in a business neighborhood, 1.8 miles from such family venues as the 165m-tall public Singapore Flyer Observation Wheel. Located around a…
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768 Upper Serangoon Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts very good location. It has a score 7.6 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
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24-hour reception
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
A mere 11 minutes by foot from Kim Tian Christian Church, Hotel 81 Kovan Singapore includes 147 rooms. There is also a car park.
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1 Onan Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts superb location. It has a score 8.4 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Wi-Fi
24-hour reception
Outdoor swimming pool
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
Nestled in the East Coast district, the 3-star Hotel 81 Tristar Singapore is 18 minutes' walk from Paya Lebar Square Retail. The hotel features a safety deposit box and 24-hour security along with…
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428 Changi Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts very good location. It has a score 7.8 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
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24-hour reception
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
Offering a storage room, the 2-star Hotel 81 Changi Singapore lies in a popular neighborhood, approximately 5 minutes by foot from Isan Gallery and 0.9 miles from Katong District. Located 1.3 miles…
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302 Balestier Road, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts very good location. It has a score 7.9 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Wi-Fi
24-hour reception
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
The 2-star Value Hotel Nice Singapore offers easy access to Shaw, which is situated approximately a 5-minute walk away. This Singapore hotel features 107 rooms and such amenities as a storage for…
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20 Lorong 20 Geylang, Singapore, Singapore
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This property boasts very good location. It has a score 7.8 out of 10 for location according to the visitors’ reviews. It must be a convenient place to stay!
Free Wi-Fi in rooms
24-hour reception
Air conditioning
No pets allowed
Located approximately 5 minutes by foot from Masjid Haji Mohd Salleh, the quaint Hotel 81 Gold Singapore gives quick access to various city sites. Located within 2 miles of Sri Veeramakaliamman…
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